For or Against Seedboxes ?

[guset]

Are you for or against seedbox?
Some said its necessary for the viability of the tracker
other saids it's just becoming machines seeding data to each other for ratio gain but without anyone watching the actual content...

Do you think its hurting a tracker/users or helping it ?

[deepdigger]

I think they are necessary in the beginning till you build up some ratio. After that no need for a seedbox.

[Qatous]

Another use of seedboxes is privacy. In some countries it's risky to download directly from home connection.

[deepdigger]

4 hours ago, skippy said:

Another use of seedboxes is privacy. In some countries it's risky to download directly from home connection.

But then again VPN and seedbox providers will hand out user info on request by authorities, so you are never really secure.

[pikachusTea]

a seedbox provider should never betray its users. If i heard about a seedbox provider that even once handed out information i would never use them or trust them.It would be such a awful thing to do against your customer. A seedbox provider with honor would never do so. But until i have heard otherwise i trust some of the providers.

The same goes for vpns.

[DarkNTwisted]

@deepdigger If you're using Bahnhof in Sweden, you don't have to worry about this and that I'm glad for.

[deepdigger]

3 minutes ago, DarkNTwisted said:

@deepdigger If you're using Bahnhof in Sweden, you don't have to worry about this and that I'm glad for.

Bahnhof - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

quite the rebels these guys.

always giving the middle finger to the government

[DarkNTwisted]

1 minute ago, deepdigger said:

Bahnhof - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

quite the rebels these guys.

always giving the middle finger to the government

That's correct!

I have them as my ISP and using their VPN, even tho I don't "need" one. But I still have a Seedbox for the speed and easy access through FTP.

Edited November 21, 2020 by DarkNTwisted

[thisishim]

Seedboxes help you get the torrent file faster,

and other peers who do not have a seedbox, help them get it faster.

Also keeps the torrent on for Longer time with little cost to the user.

Pretty much win for all.

[niteswim]

I love the privacy, services and extra storage it provides, plus being able to stream from it.

I *really don't love the extra step of downloading from it.

[DarkNTwisted]

@niteswim You mean from the  FTP? You need to have great connection at home if you're gonna save yourself from anger. 

[Austin921]

On 11/22/2020 at 5:36 PM, thisishim said:

Seedboxes help you get the torrent file faster,

and other peers who do not have a seedbox, help them get it faster.

Also keeps the torrent on for Longer time with little cost to the user.

Pretty much win for all.

That sounds good in theory but most seedbox owners have limited space so they only use it for racing hoarding ratio and dropping the torrent soon after. That hurts the tracker retention in the long term.

[DarkNTwisted]

@Austin921 Source? I think you're on the wrong trackers mate!

[niteswim]

@DarkNTwisted yes haha I use SFTP,  my connection at home is pretty good -- I discovered CuteFTP has the best speeds. Or even  HTTP,  for DL's that have a singular zip/rar link.

[thisishim]

20 hours ago, Austin921 said:

That sounds good in theory but most seedbox owners have limited space so they only use it for racing hoarding ratio and dropping the torrent soon after. That hurts the tracker retention in the long term.

Honestly thinking, It is their choice. Example, If I buy a Bentley, you cannot force me to show-off and ride around the town, maybe I like it in only my garage.

 Correct me if I am wrong, but there is no rule against Ratio Hoarding anywhere. 

I do ratio hoard to some limit, because there are some old shows I have to download, which I know later I will not be able to seed (no one will download from me even after a long time). so I have to keep a buffer. 

When someone "Races" on freeleech torrents, obviously he/she is seeding in the Process, so maybe the other user seeds for longer. 

[deepdigger]

You can say that seedbox users hurt the trackers retention, because they only use them to build ratio up, and it's true. I don't know if anyone keeps old torrents on their seedboxes.

Most old torrents reside on some big NAS in someones home, there are users that don't delete any torrent they download and have high speed connection.

But i also think its the uploaders obligation to seed indefinitely every torrent they upload.

[Austin921]

On 11/25/2020 at 3:34 PM, thisishim said:

Honestly thinking, It is their choice. Example, If I buy a Bentley, you cannot force me to show-off and ride around the town, maybe I like it in only my garage.

 Correct me if I am wrong, but there is no rule against Ratio Hoarding anywhere. 

I do ratio hoard to some limit, because there are some old shows I have to download, which I know later I will not be able to seed (no one will download from me even after a long time). so I have to keep a buffer. 

When someone "Races" on freeleech torrents, obviously he/she is seeding in the Process, so maybe the other user seeds for longer. 

Its just ratio being exchanged between seedboxes on those torrents with Autodl. Retention is the most important measure of quality for private trackers. You can get new torrents fast from any trackers public or private. Finding that old movie or tv show and getting good speed from perma-seed users is what matters in my opinion of course.

Edited November 26, 2020 by Austin921

[A3I4]

first need after no need 

[GeneralZod]

Against Seedboxes

[Animous]

For Seedboxes

[MasterCrane]

For Seedboxes!